stencilled number by the rudder pintle

[gordon]

hi

my wayfarer has no number in the ususal place, just the holes for where the plate was screwed on. but on the stern there is a much longer number including letters i think. its barely legible, but might this be a manufactureres number and related or inclusive of the boat number? i cant go by sail number as i know they are the wrong sails for the hull.

Gordon

[Colin Parkstone]

What mark is the boat, what is it made of, any idea of the age.
Am sure your talking GRP but any more info for us. All this may help in finding where the markings came from.
What was the number in the hull you found?
I would say its a Moores or Porter boat, they put numbers on the hulls, I am not sure what they mean but someone may?
CP

[Geof]

It is probably the HIN (Hull Identification Number)
If you know the code (I do not) then it shows country of manufacture, who the builder was, year and hull build within that year ( I don’t know whether this is all boats built or just Wayfarers) it does not relate directly to the Sail number.

I think its to do with EU compliance regulations.

GBOVM30705D404 relates to a Mumm30 Built by Ovington Marine in 2004

GBRCH014B212 relates to a 2012 Wayfarer

[gordon]

hi

sorry been working for a while not able to keep up with my own posts

i left out the obvious…. so here it is

RMS131031176

its a mark II grp

ring any bells ?

gordon

[gordon]

hi

just looked up hull identification number on the internet

it would seem to be for the american market, for imports….

RMS would be the manufacturer code, 13103 is the hull number and 1176 would mean november 1976

now to find out if its accurate, and who RMS are…

gordon

[gordon]

hi

having done my own due diligence i now know….

MOORE & SONS WROXHAM,R of Norfolk are the manufacturers of my boat

hull number 13103, manufactured Novermber 1976

now to find out how to get a proper wayfarer number identification plate

gordon

[bigal]

Sorry Gordon but I don’t think we had reached 13000 by 1976 !! Probably by 2030 .

Trust me I’m an actuary !

[bigal]

Ignore my comment Gordon – I hadn’t read your comment about the American market – sorry .

[Colin Parkstone]

I do trust you Big Al but whether you “Actuary” know what your talking about is another thing ” Altogether”
CP

[Geof]

The 13103 number is Moores own refernce number.
Each manfacturer can run their own number

The HIN regulations are used in most countries and their is an ISO standard – from the internet it appears the US Coastguard initiated the idea.

[gordon]

hi all

i see my number is ‘actuary’ too big !

i will try the makers, see if they have records which match up the stencilled number with my ‘wayfarer number’

at least i know the age of the boat

either that, or the americans have a secret stash of wayfarers …

Gordon

[Colin Parkstone]

Are you sure your boat is a Mk 2, half tank at the front. Again the age synposis says earliest Mk2 was number 3907 around 1974.
If it was a Mk1 it maybe that the number 3103 could be your boat number??

So RMS1 could be the Builders number, 3103 could be the boat number, and 1176 maybe the date it was made.

But that then means the boat might have to be a Mk2 as you say and then the your age for the boat is right but the number is to low.

And the 3103 is not the boat number ??

I’m off for drink, ???????? ;(

[gordon]

hi

thanks for the thought

RMS is the builders mark, not RMS1 sadly, and as you say, even then the number does not add up

more research needed i think

Gordon

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