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  • #3589
    Anonymous
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    Had a great sail the other day for a couple of hours on my own (a rare thing) in a force 3 with some lively gusts maybe hitting a force 5. The point is that I was the solitary ballast and had to work a lot harder than normal.
    Next day I tried to reduce my ballast with a five mile run, bit porky after the summer! My knee was possibly not 100% at this point but I thought it was okay………… 🙄 Great run then that night my knee blew up to twice the size and a week later is still swollen and stiff and I’ve just stopped using crutches. I don’t need a lecture on the follies of running at 44 🙄 but just wondering if anyone else has had similar injury DUE to SAILING?
    My theory is that the pull/stretch on the knees when sitting out caused some damage and the pounding running caused it to then blow up properly. Bursitis is the medical description, swelling mainly above the knee cap. There was never any specific tear or impact that I was aware of.
    Thanks for any responses! (if anyone’s managed to read this far!)
    cheers
    Mr. Hypochondiac

    #5947
    Anonymous
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    Dave,
    You poor old thing. I cycle alot, sail alot and used to run alot, but managed to injure my knee on the only occasion I went white water rafting! I do hear the occasional groan when crawling up front to get things out of the forehatch though.

    #5948
    Anonymous
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    Dave,

    Make sure you get enough beer for this condition, rub a little around the affected joint………………and drink the rest!

    Jim

    #5950
    Dave Barker
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    Dave,

    Sorry to hear of this problem. Is there any chance you might have strained the knee launching or recovering the boat? I find that moving a heavy launching trolley generally involves some sideways pulling, which is probably not ideal for knees.

    Like Matt I can recommend cycling as an over-40’s running substitute, and Jim’s patent knee rub sounds good, apart from the rub part.

    Good luck!

    #5951
    Anonymous
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    Cheers for the sympathy all! Totally agree with beer and cycling approach but living in Brighton cycling is taking your chances for becoming a flat-packed Wayfarer sailor :twisted:! And maybe the beer already caused the porkiness 😛 ………actually I do do a bit of mountain biking on the South Downs (a mountain Matt might find a bit challenging to find out East 😆

    actually what prompted my post was reading in the handbook some comment about the strain on knees (probably in the racing section)

    as for your point Dave on heavy trolleys, launch/recovery, I couldn’t agree with you more about the potential there (for back problems too, why else does anyone sell a Wayfarer!) but I’m not aware I did anything then. Ah well, better go and increase the ballast instead for the next couple of weeks. Cheers once again
    Dave
    Update! Dave you’re closer than I realised. Physio has diagnosed cartilage problem rather than bursitis, probably caused by coming up from bent knees and twisting and lifting a weight at the same time………and then obviously running on it. Who knows? Your career as Internet Doc awaits!

    #5952
    Dave Barker
    Keymaster

    In view of the cartilage diagnosis I don’t know whether this is relevant or of interest, but there’s an article by Steve Cockerill about sailing and knee problems on the Y&Y website:-

    http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/downloads/?s=73&ArticleNumber=1

    Are they going to deal with your knee by physio alone Dave?

    #5966
    Anonymous
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    Thanks Dave, excellent article which I will show the physio. Interestingly I was trying to hike out a bit further than normal, thus having my toes under the strap more than the whole of my foot.

    Not sure how the future treatment will go, knees were not fantastic anyhow but I’m sure I’ll be back soon, maybe reefing a bit earlier and not going for a run the next day! Just bought some decent waterproofs at the Southampton Boat Show.
    Sorry not to acknowledge earlier but thanks for your reply on the Helford River, I really hope to escape the in-laws and get down there but from nr.Bodmin Fowey is a lot closer.
    cheers Dave

    #5968
    Dave Barker
    Keymaster

    Dave – I looked up Penmarlam Quay on http://www.boatlaunch.co.uk/ and realised that it’s the same place we launched from a couple of years ago with the Enterprise (and canoe). Only a half-day sail (& paddle), but managed to incorporate lunch at a pub in Fowey and poked around the side creeks a bit, but the wind was really fickle, planing with 3 of us in the boat some of the time and flat calm a few minutes later.

    Lack of wind caused slight embarassment of a non-dangerous variety near the china clay dock opposite Mixtow Pill when the ship wanted to leave the dock as we were returning to the slip… 🙄

    With an overnight in Plymouth next month I had hoped to extend that to include a couple of days in Fowey with the Wayfarer, but the timings don’t work out.

    Cheers.

    #5969
    Anonymous
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    Hi Dave……re.Penmarlam Quay
    Yep, we found the wind amazingly flukey around Mixtow Pill and looked even more inept than usual! After that we tended to outboard to more open water. Also had the frustration of getting up early for a quick sail with my wife before the kids woke up properly,being over sailed, reefing and then finally getting out of the harbour only to bob about. Highlight had to be sailing back one evening, stopping at the quay in Fowey, picking up fish and chips then motoring to the opposite bank to catch the last of the sunlight while ate at anchor………nearly a Fowey yachtie! Kids are not behaved enough for pubs quite yet. Conclusion Fowey is a good spot but like anywhere that wind can be a bit tricky.
    Cheers Dave
    PS Shame you can’t get there with boat next time you are down, the place must improve a lot when the crowds depart.

    #6238
    Dave Barker
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    Dave – how is the knee shaping up?

    #6239
    Anonymous
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    Hi Dave
    Wondered if I would get spotted……..! The knee is fine if I don’t run or cycle but I am waiting for a specialist appointment……..at least it is approaching winter………..now confession time, we’ve gone and bought a 1977 Drascombe Lugger (hence my abscence here…….Drascombes also have an excellent forum and there is some good general stuff on cruising).
    I am expecting to be able to accommodate the 4 children and wife a lot easier ………..However
    1. I am hanging onto the Wayfarer for all its many virtues, just hiding it at my brothers and not expecting to sail it next summer
    2. Although there is people space on the Lugger I think I will miss the massive amount of storage under the foredeck, bench seats and locker
    3. I expect we will have to motor a bit more often
    4. Our upwind performance will be not as good etc etc

    but we will be on the water AND I reckon my specialist personal design fairweather Wayfaring boat tent will fit 🙂 ………
    so less thrills and spills but more mellow family karma!

    I know I am not the first Wayarer to get a Drascombe and for the time being it is the best family option. I am excited at the prospect of mizzens and bumpkins but I am sure the Wayfarer is more fun to sail…….
    I ain’t going away yet I’ve just been distracted…….
    cheers Dave
    PS I loved Jim’s bit on canoeing, superb.
    PS2 The other option should have been to get a second Wayfarer but none of the family seem to be too excited at that prospect, they still prefer the picnic and beach at the end…ah well.

    #6279
    Anonymous
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    Hello Daves!

    I did warn you about that knee didnt I !

    Now make sure you treat it regularly with the aforementioned remedy…ha!

    I am glad you enjoyed the canoeing ditty, I was full of aches and pains at the time!!!!

    I like plenty of room in my boats and a nice safe journey too!

    Not much hard work and of course…….room for some kneee remedy!

    keep in touch

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