Thanks, Ray. I had seen pages 11/12, but only MKIV’s and +S and Woodies were listed. As you say, all the real racers will be up front anyway no matter what they are sailing. I was actually wondering what place was the best MKII. Bought one this year, (7038) but haven’t sailed it yet, as it needs a few jobs doing, I’m a slow worker and it’s now very cold outside. Thought I might use it as a camera boat next year for snapping the rocket racers for when they do lap me. Dave.